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To be honest, my grief is not with CAIN's decision, not in the slightest. If I made it look like that I appologise, but I was making my objections long before this shit with CAIN came up. I have no problem with any admins or anyone within this community. I just feel things could do with a change. I don't mean to challenge you WJS but something you have said has caught my attention.

"Now I ask EVERY single of you to please respect the administrators because they are working hard everyday to keep things clean". The only ACTIVE admin is st.michael and that is only on the dP server every now and again. It's understandable since he works alot and does try his best. But as for the others, what hard work is this you speak about =/ i've personally seen more work put into the dP community by the likes of Rhovan, MadMack, Feyza and myself. Yet our efforts go unseen since we are not 'admins'. The simple fact is most of you are only occasionally active on the site and make decisions which are noted as 'final'. Just wondering of how this is the best way to run the clan.

Don't think for a minute i'm saying we should get higher admin, or that efforts havn't been made by the admins in the past, this community would not be around if it was not for the admins and the work they/ and yourself has done for the community to make it what it is today.

BUT times have changed, times are constantly changing. I think it's time for some changes TO and WITHIN the clan to keep up with these changes.

I simply put my opinion across so please don't take this to offence or have a go at me for saying what i've said =/ that's just how, not only myself, but alot of members in this community feel.

I also want to point out that it is the 'hard work' from other members who have recently had to handle the shit that comes with the clan along with keeping us alive =/ we have made competitions, scrims and sorted differences between one another. For a start I bet not one admin knows I have had to sort out, on 3 different occasions in the past couple months, arguments and tension between dP:! members and also arguments between members with other clan members.

-Rev!

Rev has an excellent point. My connection still sucks so I'm not on the servers, I try to be on this site often but I've got shit to take care of.

Rev,
St. Michael probably is the only active Admin across all dP games, but the things you, Rhovan, Lucid and others have done in recent months have not been overlooked. We (the Admins and members) do owe you guys putting in time and effort, acknowledgment and a Thank You. I appreciate all the work any and all of you do to better dP and keep things "alive", but i am guilty for never letting you know.

Maybe we do need reorganization. Maybe we do need a clan wide meeting. Maybe a chat room format would be best being that not everyone has Ventrillo and we'd only talk over each other anyway if things got heated. In my limited role these past few months not a day goes by that I don't miss you fuckers, like it or not I consider all you douche bags family. (even Sungod)

- Irish

P.S. - Rev and WJS, this site has spellchecker please turn it on and do not ignore the red underlined words. k thx

Lol Irish, I do miss our conversations and your witty remarks and it's nice to be appreciated but that's not why we do it. We do it to keep this clan from falling. Me and Rhovan are constantly talking about what we can do/how we can keep dP:! alive and to stop all the petty arguments.
A chat room would be a great idea, as you are correct, a lot of members in dP:! are opinionated and would most likely talk over others to say what they want to say. Either way we need a place for EVERY member to talk, discuss and tell us what they think should happen within this community. Something is needed to be done. We can easily sit back and let things go as they are, arguing among one another over petty things, having admins try to prove their dominance with a disappointing failure. But that would see an end too dP:!. Action needs to be taken and taken soon before it is too late.

There isn't a day that goes by when I think, if only Irish was around .

p.s. I use the box at the bottom to reply so the spell checker doesn’t seem to work when typing in it. I apologize for my ignorance oh wise one <3.

-Rev!

I wrote that post in 4 minutes. Pretty good for a low number of poor spellings and high number of bad grammar.

-WJS

Revenge, I know why you and Rhovan do what you do for this community, that's why I thanked you all. I did my share back when I had a cable modem connection. I know it's not easy, just wanted to say it is appreciated although the thank you's are too few and far between.

Well it is nice too see we aren't going unnoticed. As of now I've said all I really wanted to say towards what is going on and i'm happy enough to leave it upto the admins to take the next step and I put my trust in all of you to help this community rise up in this darkness and out of these dark times.

-Rev!

Firefox ftw- built-in spellcheck.

I love the fact that the person who started this mess in the first place isn't man enough to poke his big ugly mug in this thread. That's just awesome and shows how cowardly people are.

Let the greasy cunt blame me; Want my opinion, You're a fuck up, This whole clan has become a fuck up, so many factors effected this clan in making it so that they are too long to list...and if you can't see that what I did came out for the benefit of this clan...this clan...after all the problems have been settled...would find itself on the bright side of the bridge...I'm sorry to inform you but the admins circle is corrupt and has been corrupt for a long time...and I'm sorry that Cain got caught up in the middle of it...some may say he reacted radically although I see what he saw...and it still baffles me that decisions are being made by people other than, WJS, Michael, Lucid and Element...because they are the only ones and although their presence has been lacking lately...they are the only ones that really have any right to make a decision around here imo it's those few that are around that see these people that make this clan change and evolve they are the ones that are stuck in the middle of it sorting out every lil' fuck up that happens....behind the scenes and in broad daylight...I'm not talking about the stuff you do rev and those set of admins...because although that too keeps this clan functioning...it's important indeed but the work they do is much more influencial on the clan if none of them were to turn up at any point we'd be fucked. simples. Now if you really want to change I think that that admins cirlce, that small select group of admins needs to expand and I'd start with giving what is due to some of the admins who deserve to be in a position where they have the power to make a change...because they want to make that change and want to make sure that it's a positive change for dP. I have alot more to say on the matter...but i won't waste my time because I know that you're already planning something to rip into me or make me look like the bad guy again...maybe my methods are radical...but they are effective...if anybody else wants to hear more from me...hit me up on xfire. As for this place...I made a promise to an old friend that I'd lie low...wouldn't cause anymore trouble...well I'm sorry friend...but I had to break that promise for this piece of shit.

And I cut this bit out of what I was saying because it wasnt relevant but I realized you might require this to stay the fuck out of anything I say or do...Please refrain yourself from contact, assosiation, and stop these stupid lil' digs, I've spoken to many of members admins and they all want to know WHY THE FUCK YOU CAME BACK after so long...because they agree that everything you say here has no relevants...now maybe I might get carried away sometimes but I do bring up good solid points for the benefit of SOMEONE unlike yourself who just wants to see the world burn apparently...why don't you start us off with yourself. Anyway, if this offends you...well I would apologize but I really don't give a fuck about your well being. Here's your little speech I cut "A waster, and you know what I took those digs at me in my stride because they were not relevant and you were basically just trying to make things harder for me...sorry to fuck up your idealistic life of valium and vodka...if you could call that a life...but this clan isn't my life...I don't require myself to be here...I say what I say here because in the long term it will benefit the clan or a person in one way or another."